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  UFO's might be real.and what does it mean if they are?

  by atomant in

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  for some reason this subject has not received much attention over the years which surprises me.theres many conspiracy theories floating around on the internet and lve done my fair share of due diligence on the matter.the school is still out on this one.l find it very hard to believe humans are the only intelligent beings out there.has anyone on this forum ever seen a ufo or experienced a close encounter?

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  My mom and I did back around 1970. We had walked to a place overlooking Washington, D.C., from Virginia and we were just shooting the breeze when these two disk shaped objects went streaking by overhead. They moved with a slight skipping motion. Neither had a blinking light on it and they were going much faster than any conventional aircraft we'd ever seen (and we'd lived near air bases for most of our lives). The way they changed directions was amazing and yet they kept a perfect formation the entire time. I'm not at all convinced they were from another planet, but I'm surprised that if we had that kind of technology back then, why haven't we seen it reflected in our aircraft by now?

  Seeing something like that is one thing. Concluding where it came from is quite another.
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  Generation Nonsense in today's WT

  by Slidin Fast in

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  abraham was part of the 9th generation as a descendent of shem.

  yet, their lives overlapped by 150 years.

  yep, they were of the same generation!

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  According to some Hebrew traditions, Shem and Melchizedek were the same person. After the flood, Shem vanishes from the record. We also have no genealogy for Melchizedek, King of Salem, and Melchizedek was more of a title than a name. Clearly, Melchizedek had priesthood authority and he collected tithes and offerings from Abraham. It's unusual that one would just vanish and that the other would pop up in the same generation.

  When it comes to overlapping generations, I wonder how do they explain Psalms 90:10
  "The days of our years are seventy years; and if by reason of strength they are eighty years, yet is their strength labor and sorrow; for it is soon cut off, and we fly away."

  The generations of man were reduced over time. Ages dropped dramatically after the flood and no reasons are given. Some have suggested that the introduction of ozone into the air after the flood had something to do with it, but it's merely speculation.
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  True God would not seek praise nor worship from us

  by elbib in

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  when asked: “why there is so much of suffering here if god exists?” buddha responded with silence because he knew the following:.

  1) even though living in heaven, anyone can live as though he lives in hell and vice versa which means how a person thinks is the key.

  experience show that whatever a person does with 100% involvement (totality = beauty), it is like he lives in heaven.

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  Buddhism is not Christianity, nor are the ideologies compatible.

  I don't believe that God seeks human approbation and praise in the slightest. He first seeks obedience, then trust, then love.

  As the prophet Samuel put it, "Hath the Lord as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices, as in obeying the voice of the Lord? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, and to hearken than the fat of rams. For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry." (1 Samuel 15:22-23)
  

  The two great commandments are to love God with all one's heart and to love one's neighbor, or fellow man. In ancient Israel, the people understood God's law and were put under covenant to obey Him. And of course covenants work both ways as they bind both parties in an agreement.

  One flaw of the Bible is that it never tells us why God created man. Some have surmised that we are undergoing a test of some sort, but that would imply that, if so, we had a previous existence and understood what would be expected of us. Also, we're never told whether God's ever done this before. Are we the first humans to ever be created? The Pope has called Man's earthly existence an exile, but again that implies we were somewhere before we were here. But if there is a God, we can conclude there's a reason. And it has to be something more than just worship and adoration.

  Our existence is based on the fall, the atonement and the resurrection. We must gain something in the resurrection that we couldn't attain before we came here or before our creation. This is theology and can't be determined by a casual reading of the scriptures. The Catholics and most protestants believe that the fall of man, however it occurred, was a tragic mistake that could only be rectified by the Redemption. The Orthodox believe that the fall was a necessary step in man's spiritual evolution. Only through the fall and the atonement can Man become like his Creator and inherit the "Divine Spark" that will result in Man's becoming a being of immeasurable power, glory and perfection. (See The Orthodox Way, by Father Kallistos Ware)
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  Death by stoning better than "natural death"

  by stillin in

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  i mean, a rock in the head!

  wow!

  ok, so, maybe a few more rocks here and there.

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  In my opinion they ought to register the damn things!

  (For the children.)
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  The story of GOD.

  by James Mixon in

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  sunday 9 p.m april 3rd.

  morgan freeman asks questions on faith., national geographic channel.. while posting this two sisters came to my door and encouraging me to come back things have changed.

  since 1975 , and then they said "you should come back to jehovah be fore it's to late we made mistakes.

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  Yep...better go back before it's too late. Armageddon may come any century now and I'm sure you'd hate to miss it.
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  God said be fruitful and multiply,fill the earth and govern it.

  by atomant in

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  l have a problem with this.lf adam and eve didnt sin the earth would eventually have been full to the brim with perfect human beings.then what every man gets the chop or no more sex?then on the other hand we have the jw's sayingresurrected ones will not be allowed to marry in the earthly new system.. married survivors of armageddon will remain married.

  single survivors of armageddon may or may not be allowed to marry.so it seems that people reborn into new system wont be able to procreate.

  and married survivors will stay married so l assume that means they can still hanky panky and have babys thats a bit unfair..the earth can only accommodate a maximum number of humans then what for the married couples.

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  Religion and science will one day be reconciled, I think, because there's a great deal about both that hasn't been revealed yet. I watched one LDS professor try to reconcile the two, but at this stage it can't be done. As long as Christians buy into the talking snake thing and the making of man from mudpies and ribs, and as long as scientists are not able to see intelligent design in the universe, the two are like an old, bickering couple. In my own scriptures, we only have the unsatisfying promise: "Yea, verily I say unto you, in that day when the Lord shall come, he shall reveal all things—things which have passed, and hidden things which no man knew, things of the earth, by which it was made, and the purpose and the end thereof—things most precious, things that are above, and things that are beneath, things that are in the earth, and upon the earth, and in heaven."

  The new testament scriptures state that the things of the spirit are discerned by the Spirit, and they are esteemed by men to be wisdom, but are to God foolishness. If there is a super intelligence we call God, we can't depend on the words of the ancients to understand Him. It requires numerous dispensations to a number of cultures and an open mind. Because of my own experiences, I don't have an open mind regarding the existence of God. Regarding evolution, yeah, if someone could reconcile it and religion, I'd be open to it. But as long as it's an either/or thing, I'm doing the leap of faith. Because as much as evolution seems to you a certainty, it doesn't necessarily rule out the existence of God. How Christians can reconcile it and still hold on to their core of faith is something I have to research, as well as evolution itself.
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  God said be fruitful and multiply,fill the earth and govern it.

  by atomant in

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  2. beliefs

  l have a problem with this.lf adam and eve didnt sin the earth would eventually have been full to the brim with perfect human beings.then what every man gets the chop or no more sex?then on the other hand we have the jw's sayingresurrected ones will not be allowed to marry in the earthly new system.. married survivors of armageddon will remain married.

  single survivors of armageddon may or may not be allowed to marry.so it seems that people reborn into new system wont be able to procreate.

  and married survivors will stay married so l assume that means they can still hanky panky and have babys thats a bit unfair..the earth can only accommodate a maximum number of humans then what for the married couples.

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  Cofty » The questions you have proposed about evolution are the sort of thing people say who have not read a single book about science in their entire life. Evolution is a fact. It is as certain as the fact that the earth is not flat. Humans evolved from non-human ancestors over millions of years. There was no Adam and Eve. The only people who doubt that are a minority of Christians, cults and most Muslims. The thing they all have in common is wilful ignorance.

  About science? You mean all books on science revolve around evolution? Even books on astrophysics?

  Christianity, as you said, is incompatible with evolution, so Christians would have to sacrifice the key element of their religion, which is Christ, and all the prophecies and prophets pointing to him and that's just not going to happen. The prophecies are too persistent and consistent; too accurate to write off.
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  Blood Transfusion and Eating

  by dugout in

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  i get highly irritated when this subject comes up.

  this idiot gave a talk in my hall recently and said that transfusion of blood and eating blood was the same thing.

  my wife accepts this reasoning.

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  The Watchtower of 1955 almost came out against eating, but changed the article...let's see...just before lunch. Originally it read:

  “It is of no consequence that food is taken into the body through the mouth instead of the ass. Nor does the claim by some that eating is not the same as shoving it up where the sun don't shine. The fact that it nourishes or sustains the life of the body matters not. In harmony with this is a statement in the book Hemorrhage and Transfusion of Food, by Heber DeSerre, M.D., who quotes a letter from Dr. Paul Dingleberry, noted proctologist, paleontologist, protectionist and psychologist and early researcher in the field of anal analogies. It says: ‘Eating is nothing else than nourishing by a longer, more complicated road than ordinary – that is to say, placing in the ass in place of taking food by mouth only results in nouishment after several changes, which I don't want to discuss at this time, or ever.’”

  Actually, the WTS view of Armageddon, in fact, all of its eschatology, is childish and painfully...PAINFULLY...absurd, as with other adventists. The Seventh Day branch believes the U.N. is going to force a Sunday law on the world at the behest of Rome, which will use the military and civil might of the U.S. to enforce it worldwide. The faithful will resist and Rome will put them to death. You can find it on YouTube. WTS biblical exegesis is forced in the NWT, but it's mostly harmless.

  This blood thing is dangerous, though. The best way to change it is to first make it a matter of conscience for each member to decide and then to quietly drop it. If they just stopped it, I imagine there would be lawsuits.

  Where the WT really lost the plot, though, was when they banned the use of certain pet foods and garden fertilizers that were made with blood products. That was insanity at its finest.

  Oh, you're kidding. Just because we don't eat blood, the dog's not supposed to eat it, either?? What about your pet vampire bats? Can They eat it? And gardens? Those are some tough rules!
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  God said be fruitful and multiply,fill the earth and govern it.

  by atomant in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  l have a problem with this.lf adam and eve didnt sin the earth would eventually have been full to the brim with perfect human beings.then what every man gets the chop or no more sex?then on the other hand we have the jw's sayingresurrected ones will not be allowed to marry in the earthly new system.. married survivors of armageddon will remain married.

  single survivors of armageddon may or may not be allowed to marry.so it seems that people reborn into new system wont be able to procreate.

  and married survivors will stay married so l assume that means they can still hanky panky and have babys thats a bit unfair..the earth can only accommodate a maximum number of humans then what for the married couples.

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  Yeah, it's hard for me to grasp as well. They find one skeleton, like Lucy, then, before they even break camp, all conclude she was an even earlier ancestor to man than the one before. The way science ties things together sometimes amazes me. I wonder if that's where the phrase, "Well, I'll be a monkey's uncle" came from? 🙈🙊🙉
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  I am losing

  by NoMoreHustle in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i haven't posted anything for a bit, but wanted to express how i am losing this battle.

  it has been over 3 years now since i woke up about watchtower.

  the battle that i am talking about is the tug of war with my wife (i adore her immensely), watchtower is winning, she simply will not give in to my so-called negative thoughts about the religion that we are in.

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  You both have to be willing to let the other person live their life and make their own choices. It's not easy, especially where the WT is concerned, but it is possible.

  I had a friend whose son is a member of the Churches of Christ...a convert. He got along with the kid okay, but he told me it always bothered him that his son thought that when he died, that he'd be consigned to hell for eternity. At Thanksgiving and Christmas, he'd watch his son and wonder how he could entertain that thought. I don't know why, but it really ate at him. Little things like that can have more serious consequences.

  I mean, you get your keys and go out for some groceries. Your wife says, "Be careful, dear! And by the way, you're going to die at Armageddon!"